Enid: Matthew Macfadyen

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Matthew Macfadyen as Hugh Pollock


SADLY, Matthew Macfadyen has no plans to release his latest performance as a single.

The former Spooks, Pride and Prejudice, Little Dorrit and Criminal Justice star plays Enid Blyton’s first husband Hugh Pollock in Enid (BBC4, 9pm tomorrow).

At one stage singing along to the Flanagan and Allen song Run Rabbit Run.

But the iTunes store will just have to do without Matthew’s rendition.

“No, I won’t be releasing it,” he laughed when we met back in April.

“Hugh used to sing Run Rabbit Run to this wind-up record. He’d drink and sing it on his own in the living room at the top of his voice.

“I’m not doing it at the top of my voice, but I thought it was quite a nice scene.”

One that was filmed on a day after the rest of the production had finished, so keen were the TV team to include it.

Enid Blyton was a woman ahead of her time in so many ways.

This new film also shows how she shut Hugh out of her life when they divorced, cutting him off from his two daughters.

Helena Bonham Carter gives a remarkable performance as the acclaimed writer, as you can read here and here.

I thought Matthew’s many fans might also like to read some of what he had to say about the film and his role in it.

On the day of the press round table interviews, he and his actress wife Keeley Hawes had just returned from a Disney theme park trip with their three children – Myles, nine, Maggie, five, and Ralph, three.

“We were there for five days, which is about three days too long,” smiled Matthew. “My youngest took it very seriously and was kissing Mickey and talking to him.

“We had to queue up and meet Donald and Mickey and then meet Woody and Jessie, which was a very big moment for him. And he said, ‘Thank you having us.’ It was so sweet.

“But Noddy is a big person in our house…”

 Was Matthew a Blyton fan as a child?

“I read The Famous Five, primarily, and I read The Magic Faraway Tree. I didn’t really get into The Secret Seven. I sort of graduated from The Famous Five into Roald Dahl, I suppose.”

What does he think is the appeal of Blyton?

“There’s lots of absolutes and certainties in her writing, which is very reassuring for children. There’s the moral certainties, the good and bad, there’s a bit of danger in there and there’s a sort of continuity and a sameness about her stories which children like. They enjoy that repetition. And she wrote masses, didn’t she?”

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Enid (Helena Bonham Carter) and her two daughters

Did you know much about her life story before working on Enid?

“Not really. I’d heard rumblings about her not being terribly good with children. But she was good with children – perhaps not so good with her own. But it’s a different time.”

Hugh Pollock?

“He’d been married before. He’d come back from the Great War and he worked for a publishing house. He was a quite dashing guy. Like a lot of men, he’d come back from the First World War quite affected by it. He met Enid and was sort of besotted by her early on. Imogen, his daughter, was saying he had a very dry wit. But he carried a sort of melancholy from the First World War.

“It was a different time. Like all good writing and the way that it’s presented, it’s interesting, it’s not black and white. He must have been fairly difficult to live with and she had this huge career. She was a real taskmaster for herself. She was manically ambitious and busy.”

The divorce? Enid went on to marry second husband Kenneth Waters, played in the TV film by Denis Lawson.

“She sued Hugh for divorce on the grounds of adultery, rather than the other way around. That was the sort of man he was. He was a gent. She cut him out of her life very quickly once they divorced. And he didn’t maintain a relationship with the two daughters. And you see Enid going out of her way to stop him coming round. She drew a line under their relationship.”

(Kenneth later adopted the two girls, further pushing Hugh out of their lives. Hugh went on to marry his third wife Ida. He died in 1971 but she is still alive and at 101 is reported to be about to publish her own autobiography)

The Second World War:

“I think Hugh was profoundly worried by the the beginnings of the rumblings of the Second World War and couldn’t understand why his wife wasn’t sharing his sense of worry, fear and anxiety about it. In the Second World War he was in the Home Guard with his old regiment in Surrey.”

Matthew has a moustache in Enid. Was it his own?

“It was not,” he laughed. “No, we made friends every morning. Helena kept making me laugh. Lots of giggles.”

Hugh was a drinker. Is acting drunk difficult?

“Once you analyse it, it’s actually someone trying to do something very precisely, because no-one really thinks they’re drunk when they’re drunk, unless they’re really gone. You’re trying to stay in control. It’s tricky. Some people who drink just top themselves up and you don’t really know that they’re permanently pickled.”

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Hugh (Matthew) and Enid (Helena)

Why did he take this role?

“It just came along. It’s quite bleak out there at the moment. There’s not a lot happening. I was going to do A Passage To India and that was pulled. It’s a strange time. So it was a nice day when my agent rang with this.”

Would he work in America?

“Well, the family, we live here. There’s enough work. I don’t have any ambitions to live there, really. I don’t mind going where the work is, I don’t mind going to wherever, but…if there was nothing going on here, I’d probably go to LA for the pilot season. But there’s plenty of good stuff here.

“I’m doing a little bit with the Robin Hood film. I’m the Sheriff of Nottingham. It’s a very incidental character. It’s not the Alan Rickman Prince of Thieves. I just get humiliated. He’s a local bureaucratic idiot who’s after taxes. The bigger the movie, the more impersonal it is, the less you know.”

Is he thinking about theatre work?

“Yeah, it’s just whatever comes up. I really take it day by day, because that’s all you can do, unless you’re in a position where you can go, ‘Right, I’m going to do this…’ Which I’m not. If a great play came up, I’d jump at it.”

(Matthew has since signed to star on stage with Kim Cattrall in the Noel Coward play Private Lives, at London’s Vaudeville Theatre from Feb 24 2010, following a two week run in Bath which starts on Feb 10)

Keeley was working on ITV1 drama series Identity at the time of this interview and is now filming the final series of Ashes To Ashes:

“We’ve got three kids, so we’ve got a nanny and child care help. We’ve just moved house, just as the western economy collapsed. So we need to go out to work.”

Does he watch much TV drama?

“I watch very little. I really don’t. The last few years I haven’t watched anything. I kind of feel like it’s wasting my life. Once I’ve got the kids in bed and all that, the last thing I want to do is sit and watch TV. I’d rather read a book or have a glass of wine with my wife. I can’t remember the last thing I watched. That’s terrible.”

So you haven’t been watching Keeley in Ashes To Ashes? (He also appeared in a guest role for one episode)

“Oh yes, I’ve seen that, yeah, yeah. I saw it a while ago. Unfortunately you can’t be a guest twice. I really loved that. And that was my own moustache.”

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Jelly and ginger beer for tea

What kind of father is he?

“I hope I’m a good dad. I’m a pushover, really. My daughter, especially, runs rings around me.”

Is the outdoor childhood of Blyton’s books one we should return to, rather than children sitting in front of TVs and playing computer games?

“I think there’s something lovely about kids going out. I try and make my kids independent and encourage them to take risks. I think I’d worry if they were sitting in front of the TV all day, which they’re not. But I think it’s quite good for kids…it ties in with what we were saying about why Enid Blyton’s fiction is comforting. It’s a routine and I think over-stimulus is not always a good thing.

“I remember when I was little, I wanted and I needed time to stare at the wall and think and stop. And nowadays there’s a lot of, ‘Let’s do this, and we’re doing this.’ And actually it’s quite nice just to sit. My kids are very good. They sit and pick up a toy and they play with it for ages on their own.”

Were you ever in a Famous Five style gang yourself as a child?

“No. I wanted to be. My brother and I tried to create adventures. My father worked for an oil company so we moved around a lot. We were in London and then Lincolnshire and then the Far East, and Scotland as well.

“My youngest likes Noddy. And then my eldest has got into Mr Gum, written by Andy Stanton. He’s very funny. I tried him with The Famous Five but he’s not really bothered.”

Is there a pressure when you are an actor and a parent to do the voices when you read a bedtime story?

“It depends on how much wine I’ve had when I’m telling the story. If we’ve had a few glasses of wine of a night and then I pick them up and start reading them, then I really go for it, yes. ‘Ho, ho, ho…’ But I try and skip pages. Some of the books are really long. And they always know: ‘Daddy!’ There’s a long one called The Night Pirates. It’s a good 10 minutes.”

Working on talking books?

“I’ve read two and I never want to do it again. I’m really bad at it. Awful, like torture. Some actors are very good at it. I’m really bad and I don’t enjoy it. Life’s too short. I did a Tony Parsons book, awfully. And I hadn’t really done my homework. I had all these accents to do. Two days in the recording studio. Even the sound recordists were going…really bad. Stephen Fry reading the Harry Potter books is amazing. That’s such a feat of stamina. The muscles start going in your mouth.”

Matthew met Blyton’s surviving youngest daughter Imogen:

“She was lovely. It’s nerve-wracking in the sense that you’re playing her father. But she was very sympathetic and very sweet. She said she was glad I was playing him and that he was very dry and funny. She had seen a few things I’d done, so that was quite nice.”

Enid: Helena Bonham Carter Extras

The Enid Blyton Society

Enid Blyton BBC Archive

Enid DVD

Matthew Macfadyen Fansite

Private Lives: Vaudeville Theatre, London

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25 responses to “Enid: Matthew Macfadyen

  1. cubbie

    Ian, first, thank you so much for publishing this interview. It is quite possibly one of my favourites, since Matthew doesn’t often talk about his children or even his brother. It must be due to your interviewing skills, to make Matthew so relaxed!

    I want that single on itunes, too! *run, rabbit, run*

  2. JaneV

    Ian – Fabulous interview with Matthew. Thanks SO much!

  3. Mia

    Thank you for posting this, Ian! It melts my heart to read Matthew’s words thorough your interview.

  4. Lovely interview Ian. Am very much looking forward to Enid. Still got over a hundred EB paperbacks stashed away in a suitcase somewhere!

  5. lucycampelo

    A wonderful interview, thank you.

    Luciana (Brazil)

  6. Doris

    Hi Ian!

    Hardly ever read such a lovely interview of Matthew Macfadyen. Thanks so much for it, I truly enjoyed every word!

  7. Ute Stickel

    Thank you so much for this interview. I love it, especially because Matthew isn´t talking very often about his private life. I´d love to read more of interviews like this.

  8. Rosie

    What a wonderful interview Ian. Thank you so much.

  9. Kim

    Ian, thank you so much for this wonderfully insightful interview. We Matthew Macfadyen fans appreciate your attentiveness to details that enhance our reading pleasure.

  10. Mamen

    Thanks Ian for this beautiful interview.

  11. Kerry

    Thanks Ian your interview was a delight to read.

  12. Teresa

    Lovely, classy interview. Thank you so much!!

  13. Linda

    What a wonderful interview, thank you for sharing it with us. You can hear the smile in Matthew’s voice when he speaks of his family.

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  16. Thank you Ian, and Matthew, for the insight;-)

  17. Thanks to all for the kind comments. For those able to see Enid last night, what did you think of it? And of Matthew’s performance as Hugh?

    For UK readers, Enid is on the BBC iPlayer for the next seven days and is being repeated a number of times on BBC4, including at 10pm this Thursday and 9pm on Saturday.

  18. Nat

    Another awesome interview! Thanks! 🙂
    MM is another one of my favs. I like how you ask the questions I’d ask myself.

  19. Melissa

    Thank You Ian for this wonderful interview!! It’s fantastic that Matthew was so open with you!! Hopefully someone in the US will air this program so we can see his wonderful performance!

  20. Andrea

    I saw Enid last evening. Yes it was extremely well played by all the cast. Her books were a big part of my childhood. I’ve lost count of how many I read. Now I feel rather disappointed after seeing she was so awful to her family. What a shame life aint perfect after all.

  21. Hi Andrea. I agree – life aint perfect after all. But this film was just one point of view. I gather that Enid Blyton’s older daughter was far kinder about her mother. Who knows? I just hope it encourages people who have never heard of her (and amazingly there are many) to investigate Enid’s books.

  22. Roxana

    I´m a Costa Rican girl who loves MM! Thank you for posting this wonderful interview! It seems Matthew is a very down to earth kind of guy.
    His wife is sooo lucky! 🙂

  23. Reblogged this on Jerrylyd's Blog and commented:
    What an interesting interview with Matthew Macfadyen, my favourite actor 🙂 (Found it quite late but it’s lovely to read).

  24. matthewmacfadyenfan

    Thank you, for this interview with my favourite actor Matthew Macfadyen!

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